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Flight Training For Aliens and Other Designated Individuals; Security Awareness Training for Flight School Employees

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Experimental Aircraft Association filed 4 comments on this docket between Jul 15, 2009 and Jul 24, 2009. 26 other organizations filed here. The comment window closed 1621d ago.

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Jul 24, 2009· Randy Hansen, Experimental Aircraft Association· TSA-2004-19147-0359

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Jul 20, 2009· Randy Hansen, Experimental Aircraft Association· TSA-2004-19147-0358

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Jul 20, 2009· Randy Hansen, Experimental Aircraft Association· TSA-2004-19147-0357

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Jul 15, 2009· Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA)· TSA-2004-19147-0356

EAA Requests the DHS/TSA letter "Applicability of 49 CFR part 1552 to certain types of aircraft", issued on October 29, 2009 be expanded to include gyroplanes, weight-shift-control (WSC), and powered parachutes (PPC). This DHS/TSA determination letter stated that "airships, balloons, and gliders pose a minimal threat to aviation and national security." and "In addition, learning to operate one of these types of aircraft would not provide a person with the skills needed to operate rotary or fixed-wing aircraft that are motorized and capable of carrying larger payloads and amounts of fuel." Finally, "Accordingly, TSA is granting an exemption from 49 CFR part 1552 to flight schools that provide, and individuals who apply for, instruction in the operation of airships, balloons, or gliders, as those terms are defined at 14 CFR 1.1." On August 7, 2007 EAA requested that gyroplanes, WSC, and PPC aircraft be added to the exemption as they have the same operating characterics and non- security issues as those aircraft operating under the current exemption. EAA is requesting that this request for exemption be renewed because as of this date (July 13, 2009) no action has been taken by TSA on the original request. Randy Hansen EAA Government Relations Director additional indformation: - - - - - - - E-mail # 1: From: Morgan, Michal [mailto:Michal.Morgan@dhs.gov] Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2007 12:17 PM To: Randy Hansen Cc: gyrogreg@ldd.net Subject: RE: TSA Part 1552 exemption letter - gliders, etc. Randy, Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I will have Celio Young run this down. He is Miami for the remainder of the week but should be checking email so hopefully I will here something back before the week is up. If not, then definitely by Monday. Hope all is well. Michal Michal C. Morgan ________________________________________ From: Randy Hansen [mailto:rhansen@eaa.org] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 4:19 PM To: Morgan, Michal Cc: gyrogreg@ldd.net Subject: FW: TSA Part 1552 exemption letter - gliders, etc. Michal, EAA received the attached document from Greg Gremminger, reference flight training in aircraft under 12,500 pounds. Could you please clarify if it is applicable to some of the other "slow" moving aircraft - gyroplanes, powered parachutes (PPC), weight-shift-control (WSC), light-sport aircraft (max weight 1,320 pounds), and other experimental aircraft. We stand by to answer any questions you might have to help clarify this issue. P.S. Earl says hi. Randy Randy Hansen Government Relations Director Experimental Aircraft Association (EAA) PO Box 3086 Oshkosh, WI 54903 920-426-6522 888-322-4636, 1 then ext. 6522 (f) 920-426-4885 or 6560 rhansen@eaa.org http://eaa.org/ http://www.sportpilot.org/ Mark your 2008 calendar for the World's Greatest Aviation Celebration ... EAA AirVenture Oshkosh ... Monday, July 28th through Sunday, August 3rd.. http://www.airventure.org/ -----Original Message----- From: Greg & Steph Gremminger [mailto:gyrogreg@ldd.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 2:47 PM To: Randy Hansen Subject: TSA Part 1552 exemption letter - gliders, etc. Hi Randy, Thanks for any help you can give us. Attached is letter I was telling you about. The Illinois Inspector in charge of this rule in Illinois, Terry Myers, has told us his superiors in Washington say this applies to any EXPERIMENTAL aircraft other than airplanes - in other words, gyroplanes, PPC, Trikes, balloons, etc. Terry actually vetted this issue, especially with gyroplanes, with his superiors before appearing on Roy Beiswinger's Ultraflight Radio show and stating this very directly. This has obvious benefits to not be restricted from providing training to non US citizens for these such aircraft. But, we would prefer to see this in writing specifically - before giving that guidance to our experimental gyroplane instructors. Any advice or information you can provide will be much appreciate…

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